Comments on: Ray Hanania: Playing Armchair Zionism From Chicago http://www.tamingkorach.com/?p=580 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 02:54:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Ray Hanania http://www.tamingkorach.com/?p=580&cpage=1#comment-249 Ray Hanania Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:55:35 +0000 http://www.tamingkorach.com/?p=580#comment-249 Thanks Justin … when I read your blog I could see and understand that point … I just wish everyone did Ray Hanania http://www.RadioChicagoland.com WJJG Radio 1530 AM/Monday thru Friday 8-9:30 am/Studio Line: 708-493-1530 http://www.OrlandParker.com http://www.SuburbanChicagoland.com http://www.TheMediaOasis.com alternative email: rghanania@gmail.com Thanks Justin … when I read your blog I could see and understand that point … I just wish everyone did

Ray Hanania

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]]> By: Justin White http://www.tamingkorach.com/?p=580&cpage=1#comment-247 Justin White Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:15:33 +0000 http://www.tamingkorach.com/?p=580#comment-247 <em>The blame game is lame.</em> Ray, thanks for your sincere response. I agreee with your comment above. I think the fact that you and I both come from "unorthodox" backgrounds is a contributing factor to a kind of mutual understanding. It is a painful task to reconcile tradition with modernity. I am convinced that only people who have lived life on different sides of the coin can understand the situation as a whole. That is why I am skeptical of so many peaceniks-they seem to have a one-dimensional way of looking at things, no different than an adherent to any religion. I had a good friend named Adnan who I knew before and after my formal Jewish education. I can testify that only someone like him who has been through many cultures and "worlds" in one lifetime can really understand the reality of the current situation-especially the human toll on both sides. Justin The blame game is lame.
Ray, thanks for your sincere response. I agreee with your comment above. I think the fact that you and I both come from “unorthodox” backgrounds is a contributing factor to a kind of mutual understanding. It is a painful task to reconcile tradition with modernity. I am convinced that only people who have lived life on different sides of the coin can understand the situation as a whole. That is why I am skeptical of so many peaceniks-they seem to have a one-dimensional way of looking at things, no different than an adherent to any religion. I had a good friend named Adnan who I knew before and after my formal Jewish education. I can testify that only someone like him who has been through many cultures and “worlds” in one lifetime can really understand the reality of the current situation-especially the human toll on both sides.

Justin

]]> By: Ray Hanania http://www.tamingkorach.com/?p=580&cpage=1#comment-246 Ray Hanania Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:55:45 +0000 http://www.tamingkorach.com/?p=580#comment-246 I have no problem with skepticism, and I think you offer it fairly and reasonably, rather than with emotion and assault, the latter is something Palestinians and Israelis do to each other too often. But, while you point out that Palestinian Refugees will never give up their right of return, they may not in their minds, and they cling to the Rule of Law, but I cling to the Rule of Reason and Reality and the fact is they have already lost their right of return in all practical purposes. They are being fed by extremists who keep telling them that one day they will return, which is the most pernicious vicious lie the extremists can make. It's the same with Israelis. Their extremists have told them don't worry, if we don't make peace it will all be ours, but the reality is that whiel they have control, they don't have real peace and violence will forever be a part of this Israel's existence until there is a peace that both sides can work together to enforce. I'd rather fight to address the reality than to cling to a dream that is in effect a real nightmare for both sides. thanks for at least showing restraint when we speak to each other, something Palestinians and Israelis need to learn how to do more often. The blame game is lame. We need to all take responsibility and do the right thing as insurmountable as it might be. Ray Hanania www.Yallapeace.com I have no problem with skepticism, and I think you offer it fairly and reasonably, rather than with emotion and assault, the latter is something Palestinians and Israelis do to each other too often. But, while you point out that Palestinian Refugees will never give up their right of return, they may not in their minds, and they cling to the Rule of Law, but I cling to the Rule of Reason and Reality and the fact is they have already lost their right of return in all practical purposes. They are being fed by extremists who keep telling them that one day they will return, which is the most pernicious vicious lie the extremists can make. It’s the same with Israelis. Their extremists have told them don’t worry, if we don’t make peace it will all be ours, but the reality is that whiel they have control, they don’t have real peace and violence will forever be a part of this Israel’s existence until there is a peace that both sides can work together to enforce.

I’d rather fight to address the reality than to cling to a dream that is in effect a real nightmare for both sides.

thanks for at least showing restraint when we speak to each other, something Palestinians and Israelis need to learn how to do more often. The blame game is lame. We need to all take responsibility and do the right thing as insurmountable as it might be.

Ray Hanania
http://www.Yallapeace.com

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